AW: When you do have those songs that have that otherworldly feel, that are historical or mythological, is there something inherent at the core that makes you feel all the adventures? Is it difficult to keep the momentum up?
SK: That's what we set ourselves the task of doing. That's all we do, and we spend a lot of time doing it. I guess it's for others to judge if we're being successful. Even after all this time , we're learning about each other, we're taking it further all the time....
AW: Are you and Marty grounded in having learned about mythology and history?
SK: Well for me, the Roman, Norse, Celtic mythology... things like the Bible and the Koran,... all those things have interested me. It's not as if I'm trying to skim through and put it in a rock song, but anything that's happened to one in their life finds its way back to their stories and songs. And there's a lot of morals in Norse and Greek myths that are relevant to modern life. The basic conflicts - power, greed lust, -- haven't changed at all.
AW: I came in at the Starfish album. Was this a big dividing line for the new fans and the old fans?
SK: That's when we sold a lot of records and did lots of touring. It would be a lie to say it didn't change things.
AW: Your B-sides always seem really good , like "Warm Spell" and "Musk."
SK: Well, "Warm Spell" and "Musk" were just recorded on a four-track in my bedroom.
AW: Really? I can't make out any fidelity difference on those...
SK: Surely you must be able to!
AW: No, no! Of course, a lot of people wear their low fidelity on their sleeves these days.... How do you feel about that?
SK: Well, the studios are there, people should get whatever sound they're after ... Those early Beatles albums sound good because they were done in one day, and then you get sometihng like Pink Floyd that sounds like it was done in a studio and took four years. Everything's valid ... You could make a picture with a crayon or you could make one with oil paints. Whatever's appropriate.
AW: Do you have any favorite material from The Church?
SK: It changes all the time. I might name one today, and tomorrow I would think, "Why did I say that?" I think on this tour, with the acoustics, it's going to be the ones that are our favorites.
AW: How did you get hooked up with Grant McLennan [formerly of The Go-Betweens]?
SK: I met him hanging around in Sydney, and we just said, "Let's do some songs."
AW: How is the new Jack Frost different from you or Grant on your own?
SK: Jack Frost has really taken on a life of its own. On the new record, we make quite a few where we knew what it should sound like. All I know is, I had a bloody good time making it....
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